The reality is the FBI has met it match. It cannot win the war on terrorism or it adversaries such as the chinese or the Russians. They will continue to fail to protect national security reagardless of their efforts with the ploygraph. Those agents of hostile governments, will continue to see openings, and take adtantage of the CIA NSA, FBI ect. Because they know full well that the system doesn't have the ability to stay competitive. 
Their will be a turning point someday. When the FBI will be so disfunctional that it's counterintelligence division will not be able to chatch even the most reckless of traitors especailly in our technology contractors. 
More people day by day are turning to work in the field of fed contractors as oppossed to working in a federal agency that doesn't have the ability to separate fatc from fiction.
People will look at a career with the Federal governemnt not as a great future, but as iniciation that can lead to self-destruction. I think that a revolution similar to the civil rights movement is coming to challenge the polygraph. After all what good is it to have 10 FBI agents when the enemy has 100 more.

Fair Chance, I wish an argument could be made, but I cannot. Your comments are true. Unfortunately, I kind of know what Whyme feels right now. The appeal system currently being used by the FBI is stacked against anyone pursuing justice from the beginning and casts a long shadow. I did not take the advice of other on this website prior to sending letters upon letter to my elected officials that it was going to be useless. I thought because I was right and had done no wrong I could make a difference. I was sadly wrong and it only put salt into the wound. You are right that money was not motive for seeking employment with the FBI because again I thought I could make a difference. In the end, it only left me with a sour taste and life went on.  I would only recommend to Whyme to prepare to move on with his/her life and not dwell on this experience. Also keep in mind with the next election coming up in 2008 to ensure not to vote for any elected officials that was sought out for help and didn’t. Make sure elected officials address the use of pre-employment polygraph test for government employees is addressed. I still am holding out for hope that this issue will finally be resolved, but I am not holding my breath. Unfortunately the FBI and other similar agencies know it is a problem, but as long as there is a huge amount of applications to fill the ranks it makes no difference. Like it or not, that is the reality of the problem. I still have the utmost respect for the FBI, but I still do not like their pre-employment polygraph program because it is very subjective and not accurate. In the end it all worked out, but it still does bother me a little to this day. The good thing about this website is it kind of like free therapy reading the pros and cons of the polygraph.  Both sides are very passionate. Many  have somewhat good arguments, and can be funny at times. Sadly, there are many lives that are continued to be destroyed by this unscientific practice. 

Dear Fatman1955,

I cannot argue that protesting the system will actually solve any individual complaint or make the individual feel better about the decision.  The fact that you took the time to contact all people involved and received little or no feedback is what can make the difference. 

One complaint is a malcontent.  Two complaints is a conspiracy.  Three complaints might mean there is a fire causing the smoke.  Enough complaints can justify an inquiry and if nothing else, sends a message to an Agency that they will be questioned.

I know that your application to the FBI was not solely determined upon money because you and I both know that the private contractors do pay better.  You tried and appealed and filed paperwork.  You did your best and that is all you can ask of yourself.  I am only asking Whyme to do the same so he/she can feel that they tried in good faith to do everything they could to correct the insane trust placed in the "polygraph" in applicant employment decisions.

Regards.

Whyme, I honestly know how you are feeling. Very few words can be offered to ease your pain from getting your FBI rejection letter. Trust me, focus your attention on getting another job. It is true, you can pursue a path to contest the results, but I hate to be the bearer of bad news, it will not help. I had a similar case and requested my polygraph results and after a very long time they finally came (almost a year). The results said nothing and only pissed me off worst. I wrote many letter to Congressmen, Senators and even the Director of the FBI. No one ever responded back because I feel it is an unpopular political subject. After a while of feeling sorry for myself,  I redirected that anger into getting the best job I was qualified for. The good news is, failing the FBI polygraph (which I did tell the truth) was the best thing that ever happened to me because I got another government job that pays well more than the FBI would ever have done and I still do a similar job supporting the military for the war on terrorism for the government. The moral of the story is, take some time to be pissed off, which is ok, and understand the existence of an unjust polygraph system and drive on to your full potential. Good luck in your future endeavors.

Dear whyme,

You will not be the first nor the last applicant for the FBI to receive cryptic letters stating that their employment application is terminated at the FBI.  I can only in the most vehement way advise you to contest and DOCUMENT your disagreement with the FBI conclusion.  The FBI results will haunt you for the rest of your life with any application with the Federal government.

If you are guilty shame on you but if you are innocent you owe it to the lives of veterans and patriots who have sacrificed so much for this country to fight such accusations with everything that you are made of.

Some people will say, "Let it go, why do you contest so much?"  I say, when falsely accused, you have the obligation to contest and fix the system.

Believe in yourself and make your accusers accountable.  Make your certified letters count and make the government who demands our tax dollars justify their decision.

Regards.

My friend it is an unfortunat reality. But the CIA FBI is lost. It lacks the force to challenge those who thrive for the day of another september 11. They have put their faith in a machine that has already destroyed their creddibility in the 
intelligence commuity, Robert Hansen, Aldrich Ames examples.
I don't understand why these agencies just do "secret investigations" on their employees without solely replying on the ploygraph. Why not have a department that "just" investigates at will employees with top secret clearences ect?
Again their will be many Hansens or Ames in the future. My greatest concern is alqeda and other fanatics whose hatred of the government goes beyond my understanding.
As you are aware alqeda has already started training their spies with the ploygraph. I recommend trying another agency.

It has taken me a few days to overcome the shock of this. I received a rejection letter that some of you may have seen before. However, I PASSED the polygraph on the 2nd attempt. 1st try yielded inconclusive results. The FBI gave me a 2nd try 1 week later. I passed. NO countermeasures used. The investigators started my BI. They called and talked to my references and neighbors. I THINK they talked to all of my previous employers. Some of them are very hard to find, so I'm not sure. I never traveled overseas and I've held a "secret" clearance in a previous job. The day after an investigator informed me that he was going to talk to an old supervisor, Ms. Therese Rodrique dated a letter that rescinded my conditional offer. I received it 5 days later due to the mail. Its the form letter but here is one line that confuses me. "In your case, information that was developed concerning your employment history indicates that you may not be suitable for employment with the FBI". What does that mean?? "May not be..." I'm confused?? Also, 2 days after receiving the letter, an FBI agent shows up to my current employer and interviews my current boss and 2 of my co-workers at great length. I filed a notarized petition to view my file and responded to Ms. Rodrique. I am not angry at her. I'm angry at a faulty system. This is a clear mistake. I am in utter shock. There is nothing on my employment record to indicate any unsuitable conduct. I've even done the job of an intelligence analyst at another agency. And have been awarded in that position as well. I have a few friends inside the bureau... and high up. I'm reluctant to reach out to them for help bc I don't want it to adversely affect their jobs. ... but should I?? 

Does anyone know the appeals process for this? Do I have any options? Am I still able to get a job w/ the FBI? How long does this take? I guess for now I just wait for my file and investigate. Whyme??  ???