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Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: May 5th, 2007 at 7:30pm
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As mentioned in the preceding post, William Moulton Marston, the originator of the lie detector test, claimed in a 1935 article in Esquire magazine, and again in his 1938 book, The Lie Detector, to have used the lie detector to positively identify a black messenger who had stolen a code book from the office of the Surgeon General, supposedly for delivery to a German spy in New York. But Marston failed to mention the name of the messenger he caught, and I have still found no evidence that there was ever a criminal prosecution in the matter.

Historian Ken Alder documented this incident in his new book, The Lie Detectors: The History of an American Obsession, relying on contemporary correspondence from Marston to Robert Mearns Yerkes, the chief of the psychological branch of the National Research Council. Regarding the codebook incident, Alder writes (at pp. 49-50):

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[Marston's seniors] were not reassured by his performance in his first and only real-world case. When surgical instruments and a military codebook vanished from the U.S. Surgeon General's office in Washington, D.C., intelligence officials suspected one of the building's eighteen [not seventy, as Marston later claimed!] African-American messengers. Asked to find the culprit, Marston identified one man "with very strong consciousness with regard to something he had done," but he also admitted that he was not certain of the man's guilt. The problem, he explained, was that blacks, perhaps because their will was more "primitive" than that of whites, seemed to respond differently: "The factor of voluntary control which, with white men, seems to make a deception rise regular and almost an absolute one, apparently is almost altogether lacking in negroes, so that, tho the change is really even more sharp and extreme, it is vastly more difficult to estimate norm plus excitement."


Marston's racist ad hoc hypothesis to explain away his ambiguous results calls to mind the psychic who blames his mistakes on the presence of skeptics.
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Jan 17th, 2004 at 12:55pm
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According to William Moulton Marston, the originator of the "lie detector," the Bureau of Investigation (the FBI's forerunner agency) used the lie detector in a counterintelligence investigation during the First World War, some 20 years earlier than the 1938 investigation that Leon G. Turrou headed. In his book, The Lie Detector Test (New York: Richard R. Smith, 1938), Marston writes at pp. 66-68:

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...Mr. Bruce Bielaski, then Chief of the Bureau of Investigation, Department of Justice, arranged for me to work with the Bureau's New York office which had many puzzling spy problems. One of the most interesting cases concerned the loss of a secret code book. The code had disappeared from the office of the Surgeon General, in Washington, and would be taken, investigators believed, to German agents in New York City. There were upwards of seventy negro messengers in the Mills Building, Washington, which housed the Surgeon General's offices. Any one of them might have gained access to the room where the code key had been hidden. There was nothing for it but to test all seventy negroes, eliminating from suspicion those whose test records were clear.

Here was a job indeed, a lie detecting task which looked impossible on the face of it because of the extreme emotionality of negroes. A very slight impulse will send a colored man's blood pressure sky-rocketing upward, while sudden fear may cause it to drop just as suddenly again to the depths. Nevertheless, I decided to test all the messengers. Nearly all of them were desperately afraid of the test, believing it to be some sort of magic or voodoo. Some of the messengers had to be brought into the examining room by force. When all had been tested and their records examined I did find a few who hadn't stolen anything. But the number of petty thefts which our deception test uncovered was amazing--every imaginable sort of loot from pencils to fur coats and surgical instruments were among the articles recovered.

Despite all these complications, however, it was surprisingly easy to spot the messenger who had taken the code key. I telephoned immediately to the official in charge of the investigation. But although he thought all entrances to the building were covered by government agents the guilty messenger managed to get away through the basement. This was just as well, as things turned out, because the thief was trailed to the German agent who had hired him in New York City and the code book was recovered. This type of elimination test with the Lie Detector has since been used repeatedly in police investigations--it solves the otherwise impossible problem of narrowing suspicion among large groups of people.

Following the successful solution of several spy cases with the Lie Detector, Major Robert M. Yerkes, one of America's leading psychologists and Chief of the Psychological Division of the Sanitary Corps, suggested that I might organize a corps of deception testers in his division. These specially trained operatives might be assigned later to spy cases and other deception problems in Army Intelligence, Naval Intelligence, and the Bureau of Criminal Investigation, Department of Justice. I agreed to undertake the work and accepted a second lieutenant's commission to carry it out. In the course of our preliminary applications of the deception test a good many military cases were successfully handled. But while I was still at Camp Greenleaf training a group of army psychologists in the use of the test, the Armistice was declared. This put an end to war-time development of the Lie Detector. It left the Marston Deception Test approved by science as a reliable and practical method of detecting guilt or innocence, but not as yet accepted by law enforcement officers or by the Courts.


Marston also discussed the code book case in an article titled "Can You Beat the Lie Detector?" published in Esquire, April 1935, pp. 40, 174-177, reprinted in Polygraph, Vol. 14 (1985), No. 4, pp. 363-371. The following excerpt is from pp. 366-367:

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Major R.M. Yerkes, of the Surgeon General's Staff, recommended the blood-pressure test for practical use, with breathing and galvanometer records to be made and synchronized with the blood-pressure record for the sakes of supplementary check on the lie-catching expert's judgments....Extreme skepticism met Major Yerkes' endorsement of the Lie Detector in Army circles. Then it chanced that the code book was stolen from the Surgeon General's office in Washington. Circumstances made it evident that one of the seventy negro messengers in the Mills Building had probably taken the all-important code key, probably at the instigation of a German spy. I was called upon to examine all seventy negroes with the Lie Detector. Some of those colored boys had to be herded into the examining office at the point of a gun! They were terribly afraid of the test, every one of them. They thought it was black magic, or some voodoo procedure. As the test proceeded it became apparent that a good many of them had practical reasons for being afraid---we uncovered an amazing list of articles which had been stolen from various offices. Here was an excellent opportunity to test out another criticism of the Lie Detector--namely its alleged failure when suspects or witnesses were afraid or emotionally upset from causes having nothing to do with the problem under investigation.

The Lie Detector stood the test. None of the negroes, terrified as they were, beat the lie-catching expert. The messenger who had stolen the code book was found, and the book traced and recovered. More important from a long-run point of view was the fact that another alleged method of beating the test had been disposed of. You cannot beat the Lie Detector by letting fear run riot in your brain.


Curiously, Marston does not mention the name of the spy he alleges to have uncovered with the lie detector. Nor does he mention what punishment the alleged spy received. Nor does he explain why it was "surprisingly easy to spot the messenger who had taken the code key." (Perhaps because of an admission?) Nor does Marston further discuss the "several spy cases" he claims were solved by the lie detector.

Does anyone know more about these cases?
 
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