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Mr. Truth, Too bad you can never teach spelling in school. Maybe you could get your phd and try to teach on a collegiate level. I once had a professor of philosopy who was a convicted sex offender. The man was so intelligent no one cared that he had once had sex with a fifteen year old. When it comes to the polygraph, I think I can agree with you. It seems that with the more intelligent child molesters, like yourself, that the realization that the polygraph is junk science can be more of a hindrance to your therapy than help. In fact I know it is. How can you ever respect and learn from a therapist who is taking advantage of you with the polygraph? I myself thought the same thing at first, but then realized the validity of Cognitive Behavorial Psychology and was able to look beyond the polygraph and learn from my therapist. Someday I might write him a nice little letter telling him in detail how I beat the polygraph, just to hear his reaction. -Okieboy
Posted by: Mr. Truth Posted on: Aug 18th, 2003 at 7:02am
But anyway, I do believe in my heart that you have the intelligence to seperate the actual success of my therapy and my recognition as the polygraph as junk science. One has nothing to do with the other.
Except, I would spell separate correctly. But that's besides the point. If the test is wrong, it is wrong for all.
Posted by: OkieBoy Posted on: Aug 18th, 2003 at 6:20am
Dude...you admitted to molesting your daughter openly and freely of your will with no influence of drugs or drink. What do you want me to call you? Just a good guy who made a bad mistake? I would only be encouraging you in distorted thinking if I told you so. You will be a monster, until you can prove through years and years of intense therapy, legal restitution, not re-offending, and by showing you are able to supress your inner monster (i.e. the cognitively distorted thinking part of yourself) and let the superior nature and goodness in you take over ( the cognitively rational part of you).
-Okieboy
Posted by: Mr. Truth Posted on: Aug 17th, 2003 at 11:40pm
Saidme, You seem like a pretty intelligent guy, so why can't you get it? My probation's purpose wasn't to indoctrinate me into the cult of the polygraph and make me a life-long believer in the pseudo-science of it. My probation's purpose was to teach me about my deviant cycle of behavior and to know when I am slipping into despair so that I can recognize those thinking distortions and use friends and family to talk about it and get back on the right path. When Cognitive Behavorial Psychology was being groundworked by the great psychologists of our time, they had no idea that the quackery of the polygraph would eventually be incorporated into their therapy ideas by local law enforcement and probation and parole. They are probably rolling in their graves at the injustice being done to their field of psychology. Answer me this one question Saidme. Why is it that the top scientific and psychological minds in our country have stated in the American Psychological Association's Review, that polygraph testing is at best "psuedo-science"? Does that not tell you something? Do you even believe in science? Just tell me if you are some new-age, mystic, chi-slinging wannabe and that will explain it. At least then I will be able to comprehend why you don't believe in science. But anyway, I do believe in my heart that you have the intelligence to seperate the actual success of my therapy and my recognition as the polygraph as junk science. One has nothing to do with the other.
-Okieboy
Posted by: Saidme Posted on: Aug 17th, 2003 at 5:59pm
Seriously. I am the survivor of three years probation in a county that forced us to take Polygraphs every six months. I learned what quackery the polygraph was and used the "sting" method to beat it every time. What can I do now that I am off probation to fight the polygraph? Should I reveal what bullshit it is to my former probation officer and therapist? Should I reveal it to the news? Should I write a book? Who can I tell, what can I do? I feel that I have this valid experience that proves what pseude-science the polygraph is, what can I do with this experience? Can I help others somehow? -Okieboy