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Topic Summary - Displaying 7 post(s).
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Jul 30th, 2003 at 7:37am
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Crystal,

False accusations such as you encountered are not uncommon. You should definitely appeal the results in writing. See Chapter 5 of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector for tips on how to proceed. In Chapter 3 of the same book, you'll find a detailed explanation of how polygraph operators infer truth versus deception (it's sheer quackery), and in Chapter 4 you'll find tips on how to protect yourself against a second false positive outcome.
Posted by: Crystal
Posted on: Jul 30th, 2003 at 5:41am
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Angry
Hi,  I am so frustrated write now.  I took a polygraph last week and failed.  The polygrapher tried to accuse me of selling illegal drugs. I have never sold,  and the two times I have used drugs, once in high school- marijuana, and the other  I was druged my first year in college,  not sure what the drug was.  The polygrapher kept harassing me and telling me that I was lying and I wasn't.  I tried to tell him after the fact that it might of set off because I am still lost on who druged me my 1st yr in college.  And I still wonder.  He then claimed that I lied to him again since I know who did it, but I dont.  PLEASE HELP>
Posted by: Saidme
Posted on: Jul 25th, 2003 at 10:29pm
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Cmon guys, at least I said have a good weekend. Cheesy
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Jul 25th, 2003 at 10:19pm
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Human Subject,

I wholeheartedly agree. Saidme's flippancy vividly illustrates, in a way that we could not, that which is wrong with the polygraph community.
Posted by: Human Subject
Posted on: Jul 25th, 2003 at 10:13pm
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Saidme continues to make the anti-polygraph case for us.  Evidence schmevidence!
Posted by: Saidme
Posted on: Jul 25th, 2003 at 8:54pm
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George

Blah blah blah blah false positive blah blah blah blah scientific validity blah blah blah blah blah blah blah wrongfully accused blah blah blah blah blah blah empirical evidence blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah peer reviewed blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.   

Have a good weekend.
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Jul 25th, 2003 at 12:22pm
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On 22 July 2003, Senators Charles Grassley and Patrick Leahy introduced Senate Bill 1440, the "Federal Bureau of Investigation Reform Act of 2003." Title III of this bill would establish an FBI counterintelligence polygraph program.

Section 303(b)(1) directs the Attorney General, in prescribing regulations for the polygraph program, to "take into account the results of the Polygraph Review" of the Committee to Review the Scientific Evidence on the Polygraph of the National Academy of Sciences. But the main conclusion of that review (The Polygraph and Lie Detection, National Academies Press, 2003) is that "Polygraph testing yields an unacceptable choice for...employee security screening between too many loyal employees falsely judged deceptive and too many major security threats left undetected. Its accuracy in distinguishing actual or potential security violators from innocent test takers is insufficient to justify reliance on its use in employee security screening in federal agencies" and that "[o]verconfidence in the polygraph--a belief in its accuracy not justified by the evidence--presents a danger to national security objectives" (p. 219, original emphasis).

As Dr. Kathryn Blackmond Laskey emphasized at the National Academy of Sciences' 8 October 2002 press conference announcing the polygraph review committee's findings, polygraph screening such as that contemplated by Senate Bill 1440 has never caught a single spy. On the other hand, spies like Karl Frantisek Koecher, Larry Wu-tai Chin, Aldrich Hazen Ames, and Ana Belen Montes all beat the polygraph. Far from enhancing national security, Title III of S.B. 1440 will undermine it.

It is ironic that Senators Grassley and Leahy should direct the Attorney General to prescribe regulations for a polygraph screening program taking into account the findings of the NAS report, when that report finds precisely that such screening programs should not be implemented! Have these Senators gone daft?

Here is the full text of Title III of S.B. 1440:

          TITLE III--FBI COUNTERINTELLIGENCE POLYGRAPH PROGRAM 

     SEC. 301. DEFINITIONS.

       In this title:
       (1) Polygraph program.--The term ``polygraph program''
     means the counterintelligence screening polygraph program
     established under section 302.
       (2) Polygraph review.--The term ``Polygraph Review'' means
     the review of the scientific validity of the polygraph for
     counterintelligence screening purposes conducted by the
     Committee to Review the Scientific Evidence on the Polygraph
     of the National Academy of Sciences.

     SEC. 302. ESTABLISHMENT OF PROGRAM.

       Not later than 6 months after the date of enactment of this
     Act, the Attorney General, in consultation with the Director
     of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Director of
     Security of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, shall
     establish a counterintelligence screening polygraph program
     for the Federal Bureau of Investigation that consists of
     periodic polygraph examinations of employees, or contractor
     employees of the Federal Bureau of Investigation who are in
     positions specified by the Director of the Federal Bureau of
     Investigation as exceptionally sensitive in order to minimize
     the potential for unauthorized release or disclosure of
     exceptionally sensitive information.

     SEC. 303. REGULATIONS.

       (a) In General.--The Attorney General shall prescribe
     regulations for the polygraph program in accordance with
     subchapter II of chapter 5 of title 5, United States Code
     (commonly referred to as the Administrative Procedures Act).
       (b) Considerations.--In prescribing regulations under
     subsection (a), the Attorney General shall--
       (1) take into account the results of the Polygraph Review;
     and
       (2) include procedures for--
       (A) identifying and addressing false positive results of
     polygraph examinations;
       (B) ensuring that adverse personnel actions are not taken
     against an individual solely by reason of the physiological
     reaction of the individual to a question in a polygraph
     examination, unless--
       (i) reasonable efforts are first made independently to
     determine through alternative means, the veracity of the
     response of the individual to the question; and
       (ii) the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation
     determines personally that the personnel action is justified;
       (C) ensuring quality assurance and quality control in
     accordance with any guidance provided by the Department of
     Defense Polygraph Institute and the Director of Central
     Intelligence; and
       (D) allowing any employee or contractor who is the subject
     of a counterintelligence screening polygraph examination
     under the polygraph program, upon written request, to have
     prompt access to any unclassified reports regarding an
     examination that relates to any adverse personnel action
     taken with respect to the individual.

     SEC. 304. REPORT ON FURTHER ENHANCEMENT OF FBI PERSONNEL
                  SECURITY PROGRAM.

       (a) In General.--Not later than 9 months after the date of
     enactment of this Act, the Director of the Federal Bureau of
     Investigation shall submit to Congress a report setting forth
     recommendations for any legislative action that the Director
     considers appropriate in order to enhance the personnel
     security program of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
       (b) Polygraph Review Results.--Any recommendation under
     subsection (a) regarding the use of polygraphs shall take
     into account the results of the Polygraph Review.
 
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