Once again Polyman2002,

Your wit is quite astounding.  If you can find some intelligent arguement to go with it, you might inspire someone to actually agree with you.

Does your mother know what you do on the Internet at night?

Unreasonable,

You failed the polygraph because you lied.

OK.  I think you're right.  I mis-interpreted the first message.  It appears Anon was stating he was glad it was not one of the "yahoos".  

Thanks for pointing that out.  

Anonymous, if George is corrrect, thanks for excluding me from the derogatory category and sorry for jumping to conclusion.  After reading Beech Trees' posts elsewhere, I was assuming all posts to me would be personal attacks.

Public Servant,

You wrote in part:

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If you re-read Anonymous's post, I think you'll see that he/she meant to exclude you from the population of said "complete yahoos."

Wow!  I thought I was the most moderate of all the poly proponents on this message board.  And now just because I have the courage to chime in I am the most ignorant of all yahoos.

In all fairness, it's just too hard not to resist pressing Beech Trees' buttons.  Hopefully even he knows it's all in good fun.   

For some constructive conversation in which I have thrown in my two cents, please go to the thread on the NAS report or any of the threads in which Drew, George, and I have had actual constructive discussions ("Back to the Basics", for example).

Public Servant,

Glad to see you are still with us.  I was afraid the NAS report was going to cower all but the complete yahoos of the polygraph world, those too ignorant to comprehend the consequences for themselves and their colleagues stemming from the aforementioned watershed effort and publication.  Stick around--we should have fun in the coming days and weeks...

Saved your life?!  Now you're saying someone threatened to kill you if you were DI?!

Perhaps what you meant to say was this site gave you a life.

I have to agree with Poly Cop, you are quite amusing, Beech.

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Excuse me? You will need to explain that little gem.

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So you get them all straightened out, do you? How does your crowd unring the bell these days?

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Ri-i-i-ght. A more likely hypothesis: Once they determine George and Gino were dead-on in describing your totally discredited pseudo-scientific fraud, they allow you to believe that your lying rhetoric has brought them back to a state of fear and trepidation that you need in order to register anything. They use the countermeasures you cannot detect and you pass them.

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This site saved my life dear fellow. Congratulations on the recent NAS findings,

Dave

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It is because of this site we are able to show people that polygraph does work.  They come in with their heads all messed up and we have an open frank discussion about polygraph this web site and other information.  Once they understand they have no problem passing the polygraph.  It is your weak arguments and comments like yours that helps debunk this site.

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How could you cheat on your boyfriend when you were not with him.  In your current emotional state you will fail the test.  Get a grip and stop cheating on him.

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Frankly, I wouldn't take a polygraph on this or any other topic.  How you do on the "test" depends on a lot more than whether you're telling the truth.

Yes, you can fail because you're nervous (the polygraph is basically a nervousness/adrenal reaction detector).  Obviously, there are many reasons why you might react nervously to a given question.  Guilt is only one.

If you want to know more about the polygraph, I would suggest you download "The Lie Behind the Lie Detector", linked to from the www.antipolygraph.org's main page.  You might also want to show it to your boyfriend.

It's up to you, of course, whether you want to admit to your "cheating" (the way you describe it, I guess I wouldn't call it that).

Skeptic

My boyfriend is accusing me of cheating on him and i don't wanna call up jerry springer or anything so i told him the i would take a lie detector test, and i'm really nervous because i have cheated on him once but we weren't together at the time. what should i do to pass!!! Is the trick basically staying calm and not getting nervous, will i pass if i'm not nervous?
HELP!!!!!!!

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Now THAT is funny...

Beechtrees, I never knew you had such a sense of humor...

Polycop

Wow, so now the party line is that merely reading this site will cause a failure in one's polygraph test.

Perhaps if, after each and every time you visit this site you also visit polygraphplace.com, the effects will be counteracted and you will once more be placed into a blissful state of ignorance about the fraud behind the pseudo-science of polygraphy.

Unbelievable,

   You are only partially correct.  An otherwise naive and not terribly bright examinee might not recognize the difference between control and relevant questions, and thereby be the beneficiary of a random successful result under the guise of ignorance is bliss.  A reasonably intelligent examinee or one made artificially knowledgeable would be at a disadvantage if all he could do was recognize the difference between relevant and control questions and uncontrollably react to the consequences of relevant question issues.  

   But the good news is that that is not the end of the game.  It is not enough to know, but then one must do and act (learn and utilize effective countermeasures).  If one takes the final step, then one can successfully complete a polygraph examination.  Besides, by the time one reads a warning such as yours on this site, he is already knowledgeable about the difference between control and relevant questions and the various deceptions involved in the exam.  When one is half way across the stream, one might as well go to the desired shore (goal), rather than retreating to the less desirable starting point/shore.  The latter is really not a possibility in this situation anyway—it would require that one lose one's knowledge and understanding about the workings and nature of a polygraph exam.

My question is: Does an applicant with no issues with the relevant questions on a poly have a worse chance of passing after reading this site? I believe that it does. Let me explain.

I found this site when preparing for the FBI written exam.  I searched the term FBI test on the internet looking for info about the test.  That is when I discovered the former nopolygraph.com.

I read the sight off and on for two years as I was going through the process.  Getting more and more amped up about taking the poly although I knew I had no issues with any of the relevant questions.

When the opportunity to take the test came I failed.  I showed 99.9% probability of lie to the drug - selling question and also showed deceptive on the drug- use and accuracy of the application question.

I am in law enforcement so I have had access to candid conversations with polygraph examiners.  All of whom are against pre-employment screening. (It is illegal in my state and one of these polygraphers has testified to the state legislature on the cons of pre-employment screening)

Based on these conversations, I believe that I failed because I had too much information about the test.  Because I knew the control questions didn't matter and failing the relevant questions had consequences, It stands to reason I would have a more pronounced response to the relevant questions as opposed to the control questions.

Are more people failing because of the information available on the internet regarding the polygraph.   Wouldn't we expect other investigative techniques to be less effective if their methods were publicly disclosed?

My advice to those who are facing a pre-employment screening who don't have any issues.  Stop reading.  As pointed out on this forum the test is based on some trickery (like many other good investigative techniques).  And the more you know the less likely you will pass.