{"id":32,"date":"2006-05-06T03:59:26","date_gmt":"2006-05-06T07:59:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/antipolygraph.org\/blog\/?p=32"},"modified":"2021-02-09T05:16:30","modified_gmt":"2021-02-09T10:16:30","slug":"lie-detector-producer-jon-m-crowley-responds-to-antipolygraphorg","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/antipolygraph.org\/blog\/2006\/05\/06\/lie-detector-producer-jon-m-crowley-responds-to-antipolygraphorg\/","title":{"rendered":"Lie Detector Producer Jon M. Crowley Responds to AntiPolygraph.org"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"entry\">\n<p>On Friday, 5 May 2006, veteran newsman Kevin Broderick <a title=\"Morning Buzz for Friday, 5 May 2006\" href=\"http:\/\/www.laobserved.com\/archive\/2006\/05\/friday_5506.php\">mentioned<\/a> this blog&#8217;s article, <a title=\"Phony Ph.D. Ed Gelb Gets $150,000 Contract\" href=\"https:\/\/antipolygraph.org\/blog\/?p=30\">Phony Ph.D. Ed Gelb Gets $150,000 Long Beach Contract<\/a> in his influential <a title=\"LA Observed\" href=\"http:\/\/www.laobserved.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">LA Observed<\/a> blog:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Lying in Long Beach:<\/strong> The website <a href=\"http:\/\/antipolygraph.org\/blog\/?p=30\">AntiPolygraph.org<\/a> says the city of Long Beach has hired Intercept, Inc., a Los Angeles company &#8220;headed by celebrity polygrapher Ed Gelb, who fraudulently passes himself off as a Ph.D. Guests who appeared on Gelb&#8217;s television show, &#8216;Lie Detector,&#8217; have reported to AntiPolygraph.org that the &#8216;tests&#8217; he conducted lasted about 10 minutes from hello to goodbye, which is sub-standard even by the low standards of the polygraph community.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a title=\"Jon M. Crowley\" href=\"http:\/\/joncrowley.com\">Jon M. Crowley<\/a>, who <a title=\"Jon M. Crowley Resume\" href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20060615054549\/http:\/\/joncrowley.com\/_wsn\/page2.html\">produced, wrote, and directed<\/a> the <em>Lie Detector<\/em> television program featuring &#8220;Dr.&#8221; Ed Gelb, responds in his Hollywood Thoughts blog in a post titled, <a title=\"Lie Detector Expert Labeled a Liar\" href=\"https:\/\/hollywoodthoughts.blogspot.com\/2006\/05\/lie-detector-expert-labeled-liar.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Lie Detector Expert Labeled a Liar<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Well, gang, I can tell you that as the supervising producer of &#8220;Lie Detector,&#8221; the folks at antipolygraph.org have their facts, as usual, all wrong.<\/p>\n<p>In addition to being a morally upstanding individual, Ed Gelb never spent less than a TWO HOUR PERIOD with any polygraph subject. There are strict rules that all polygraph administrators must follow as established by a governing board of polygraph experts. Ed Gelb never did less than follow the &#8216;letter of the law&#8217; of what is considered the highest standards of testing.<\/p>\n<p>So why would Antipolygraph make such a posting? Who would make these spurious claims?<\/p>\n<p>I offer a suggestion:<\/p>\n<p>People found to be lying.<\/p>\n<p>Why wouldn&#8217;t someone who appeared on the program &#8212; and revealed as a liar &#8212; want to continue the charade?<\/p>\n<p>Additionally, I strongly suggest you research &#8212; via a google search &#8212; a brief background on the (disappointing) polygraph career of Antipolygraph&#8217;s moderator.<\/p>\n<p>Sour grapes.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>While AntiPolygraph.org has no direct knowledge of what went on during the polygraph sessions held for Crowley&#8217;s television show, the fact remains that we have heard from two different guests who appeared on the show that Gelb&#8217;s polygraph examinations lasted a total of about ten minutes. As for the assertion that &#8220;[t]here are strict rules that all polygraph administrators must follow as established by a governing board of polygraph experts,&#8221; it is Crowley who has his facts wrong. The polygraph trade is <strong>completely unregulated in the state of California.<\/strong> Anyone can purchase a polygraph instrument, hang out a shingle, and start giving polygraph &#8220;tests.&#8221; No license is required. There are no rules, no governing board of experts.<\/p>\n<p><em>Lie Detector<\/em> guest Bob Smitty <a title=\"Rob Smitty\" href=\"https:\/\/antipolygraph.org\/cgi-bin\/forums\/YaBB.pl?board=share;action=display;num=1126714573\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">reports<\/a> that his request for a copy of Gelb&#8217;s polygraph report so that he could have it independently reviewed was not honored.<\/p>\n<p>And for reasons he would know best, Crowley chooses not to address the central criticism that &#8220;Dr.&#8221; Ed Gelb <a title=\"Ed Gelb Exposed as Phony Ph.D.\" href=\"https:\/\/antipolygraph.org\/articles\/article-036.shtml\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">obtained his &#8220;doctorate&#8221; from an unaccredited diploma mill<\/a>. Instead, Crowley makes an ad hominem attack on AntiPolygraph.org co-founder George Maschke. You don&#8217;t need to use Google discover his background with the polygraph. See his public statement, <a title=\"Too Hot of a Potato: A Citizen-Soldier's Encounter with the Polygraph\" href=\"https:\/\/antipolygraph.org\/statements\/statement-003.shtml\">&#8220;Too Hot of a Potato: A Citizen-Soldier&#8217;s Encounter with the Polygraph.&#8221;<\/a> But it is not clear how any of this detracts from the overwhelming evidence that Ed Gelb is not a legitimate Ph.D.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On Friday, 5 May 2006, veteran newsman Kevin Broderick mentioned this blog&#8217;s article, Phony Ph.D. Ed Gelb Gets $150,000 Long Beach Contract in his influential LA Observed blog: Lying in Long Beach: The website AntiPolygraph.org says the city of Long Beach has hired Intercept, Inc., a Los Angeles company &#8220;headed by celebrity polygrapher Ed Gelb, &#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[278,279],"class_list":{"0":"post-32","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-polygraph","7":"tag-ed-gelb","8":"tag-jon-m-crowley","9":"anons"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/antipolygraph.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/antipolygraph.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/antipolygraph.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/antipolygraph.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/antipolygraph.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=32"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/antipolygraph.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2575,"href":"https:\/\/antipolygraph.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32\/revisions\/2575"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/antipolygraph.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=32"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/antipolygraph.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=32"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/antipolygraph.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=32"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}