In a video clip posted to X on Wednesday, 23 April 2025, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem boasted to broadcaster Tim Pool, “we’re polygraphing everybody!”
A transcript of their conversation prepared by AntiPolygraph.org follows:
Noem: I will tell you, one thing in Homeland Security that we’ve been doing [laughs] is we’re polygraphing everybody!
Pool: [laughs]
Noem: You know, we’re kind of going hard core. So I’m just, you know, I don’t trust anybody, and
Pool: Yeah.
Noem: Yeah, I am. We are polygraphing everybody.
Pool: [indistinct] polygraphing everybody.
Noem: So if I had a CBP officer that was sittin’ there, and facilitated child trafficking, the first thing I’d do is put him on a polygraph as we’re building a case against him.
Pool: Hah hah hah!
Noem: So, we’ve done that with people on our executive offices, heading up our biggest agencies, um in our communications department. We’ve had all these leaks going on. We’ve polygraphed those individuals. If we think somebody is not on Team America, then, you know, I want to find out if you really understand that you’re working for the people of this country.
Pool: I love it!
Noem: So, nobody’s done that before, but if I have the authority to do it, I’m gonna do it to make sure—the deep state…exists.
Pool: Oh yeah.
Noem: And I, I would say ten years ago you could have told me, you know, I would have been skeptical on that and thought everybody’s kinda seein’ shadows. Boy, if anything has proven to me that it does, and that there are people embedded in this government, and that there are people that are facilitating crimes and criminal activity, um, I know that there are, so we’re gonna make sure that we’re doing all we can to clean house and get people out of here that facilitate something as horrific as that.
Secretary Noem evidently remains unaware that polygraphy has no scientific basis, that it has never solved a federal leak investigation, and that the National Academy of Sciences advised more than two decades ago that “[polygraph testing’s] accuracy in distinguishing actual or potential security violators from innocent test takers is insufficient to justify reliance on its use in employee security screening in federal agencies.”
DHS Barbie allowed her purse to be stolen with her DHS credentials, along with $3,000 of cash. When I was at DHS, allowing one’s credentials to be unguarded could get one in “hot water.” Why someone like Noem would even be allowed to work at DHS, let alone run this agency proves the orange man does not know what he is doing.